History: Fiction or Science? (Chronology, No. 1)

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Recorded history is a finely-woven magic fabric of intricate lies about events predating the sixteenth century. There is not a single piece of evidence that can be reliably and independently traced back earlier than the eleventh century. This book details events that are substantiated by hard facts and logic, and validated by new astronomical research and statistical analysis of ancient sources.

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Calculations are only as good as your numbers.......2007-08-03

Yes, we can all agree that mainstream history is nearly 100% BS due to politics, economics, ego, problems with dating techniques, and various conspiracies. Agreed. But, I've been researching the distinct possibility that human history (in terms of civilizations) are much more ancient than we've been told, so coming across this book was very interesting to me. I wondered how Fomenko could be wrong (if at all) because he is very persuasive in his presentations. Then it dawned on me. If at previous times in prehistory, due to the various catastrophies that are well documented (comets, asteroids, planetary disruptions, plasma discharge, pole reversals, etc) the Earth was in a different position in relation to the sun, different tilt on its axis, different orbit, different rotation (in terms of velocity and DIRECTION), and the continents were in different positions, then would this not cause the ancients to see the sky (constellations) differently? In other words, is Fomenko making erronious assumptions about the physics of the Earth in pre-history, which then corrupt his data with regards to dating the relevant astrology? The last event to seriously disrupt our planet occured roughly 3500 years ago, according to other good researchers, so is it possible Fomenko has been confused by this? The vastly different physics of our planet in the not so distant past may explain this confusion, which is not to say the "mainstream" version of history is correct; on the contrary. I am not an expert in these fields, but wanted to see if this idea could spark discussion.

Pants on fire?.......2007-07-19

Will people ever read before spamming? Yes, Jesuits could not rewrite world history alone, they had help. Anyway, Dr Prof Acad A.Fomenko does not point to jesuits as the driving force of world wide history manipulation in published volumes 1,2,3;, actually he barely mentions the poor devils. Check it with 'Search inside' feature, please. China is rarely mentioned either, in fact, Dr Fomenko is completely eurocentric. Right, his theory contradicts all mainstream schools of history, because in their actual state they are all built on blatantly erroneus chronology. You don't need a mysterious cabal (conspiracy) to falsify history, the falsification is its modus operandi. It is inherent to history(ians) to falsify (distort) events, as it is inherent to humans to boast as it is inherent to power (authority) to legimize itself by referrring to glorious past made to its own order. Dr Prof Fomenko and team have identified scores of instances of such manipulation in Russian, European, etc.. history, and delivered valid statistical proof thereof. His own 'reconstruction' is completely another story. Forget c14 as a valid method of dating. W.Libby has initially discovered a brilliant method of INDEPENDENT dating. Too bad, c14 method has become a joke after a forced marrige with dendrochronology with consensual chronological scale inbuilt. Radiocarbon method can't stand blind tests, but is so very productive as a rubberstamp.

Accepted History & Chronology Must Be Changed. .......2007-04-09

There is no doubt that history as most know it is a sham, & institution's version of History both University & Church is fradulent & inaccurate. Everything was established with an agenda, The real "Dark Ages" are now when we have access to incredible amounts of information past authorities & more important 'common folk' didn't have but our institutions & educators are slow to evolve because of what has ignorantly & arrogantly been taught for too long. This is on many subjects not just Chronology.

For anyone to question "Why would a Mathematician have anything credible to say of History?" The answer is from Dr. Fomenko's preface in the book: "It would be worthwhile to remind the reader that in the XVI-XVII century Chronology was considered to be a subdivision of Mathematics." These volumes could possibly be some of the most important works to date & should be read by everyone with an interest in History, especially professors & educators who have a duty to the public. I have read both books & must say that 'Chronology 1' has some very eye opening & revolutionary information. Even if these volumes are part true the implications are profound & opens the doors to further investigations & questions which must be done. I speak several different lanquages & must say the logic Dr. Fomenko uses with "inflection" of words & words being read from left to right in one region & right to left in another then written backwards, the removal of vowels & get down to basics of words, or different cities & locations having the same name etc. is correct. Vowel usage has always been optional & varied, actually complicating linquistics & study. The first thing one has to understand is that words never had a fixed spelling in history like we do now, the spelling of words was mutable & regional, as well as names & titles of people were vast, varied & changed, NOTHING WAS FIXED or understood linear. Matters of Life & Death as well as financial profiteering yesterday & today were & are made with ignorant, illogical & conspiratorial views of history & reality, it's time people get closer to the Truth & society collectively grow up.

Very Interesting.......2007-03-07

It is a good proposal and I believe it will mature into something even better in the future. I think it deserves to be read.

History as Science Fiction.......2007-01-10

Anatoly Fomenko has written a very intriguing book, full of pictures, charts, and computer 'proof' of his thesis: backwards of AD900 we don't really know what happened or when. Between AD900 and AD1600 there is more certainty, but there is still a lot of fuzzy ground, and things don't get reliable until we get past the 1600's where the printing press made it very difficult for the perpetrators of this timeline manipulation to change anything that had been committed to print. The Dark Ages did not happen. Books were burned for a reason. One organization has doubled the actual length of its existence by expanding the real chronology. Read why.

I had always wondered why Christ died about AD33 and yet men waited until the 11th century to form the Knights Templar, the Cathars, etc and go after the Holy Land by force. Why the 1000 year gap? Turns out there wasn't more than a 10-12 year gap and he proves it using astronomy. This also implies that the planet is not as old as we have been told, and current Christian and other creationist scientists are already championing that idea without being aware of Fomenko's book. The two groups, creationist scientists and the Russian mathematical analysts corroborate each other. Fascinating.

Of course, all this flies in the face of what we have been told traditionally is the 'proper' chronology of western civilization, and most readers will experience 'cognitive dissonance' in reading this book. It means that our history going backwards from AD1600 becomes progressively more incorrect and unreliable until it cannot be trusted at all... in the space of 700-800 years.

Naturally, the curious, open-minded reader will want to know WHO did this, WHY, and did any of the events we think of as really ancient ever happen?
Dr. Fomenko is a respected scientist/mathematician at Moscow State University who has already answered these questions to the satisfaction of his initially skeptical colleagues. Most of them are now believers, a few still refuse to believe (the usual diehards), and of course the western press has ignored Fomenko's work -- for obvious reasons when you read the book. The ones who perpetrated this chronology ruse have a lot to answer for. They are still with us. That's why this book is a well-kept secret.

I gave the book a 4-star rating because I was unable to check out some of his claims; those I checked were as he said. But if even 1/3 of his claims are true, this punches a big hole in what we think is our history, the meaning of western civilization, our educational process (for repeating the ruse as gospel), and the trustworthiness of the organization that perpetrated this ruse, well-intentioned or not.

This book relates to current research into a Young Earth paradigm, to John Keel's discoveries about our planet, and Fr Malachi Martin's insights (in his now out-of-print books). We are indeed sheep who are manipulated and kept ignorant -- for a reason. While knowing what these men have to say may be the "booby prize" (as in: 'what can you do with this knowledge?'), it will provide interesting reading. Didn't someone say: "...and the Truth will set you free."?? For you to judge if this book contains the truth.

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Finding Moon by Tony Hillerman
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Finding Moon
Tony Hillerman
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ASIN: 0061092614

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Tony Hillerman's bestselling Navajo mysteries have thrilled millions of readers with their taut, intricate plotting, sensitive, subtle characterizations and lyrical evocations of landscapes and cultures. Now he departs his trademark terrain and applies his talents to a story he has wanted to tell for decades about an ordinary man thrust into total chaos.

Until the telephone call came for him on April 12, 1975, the world of Moon Mathias had settled into a predictable routine. He knew who he was. He was the disappointing son of Victoria Mathias, the brother of the brilliant, recently dead Ricky Mathias and a man who could be counted on to solve small problems. But the telephone caller was an airport security officer, and the news he delivered handed Moon a problem as large as Southeast Asia.

His mother, who should be in her Florida apartment, is fighting for her life in a Los Angeles hospital -- stricken while en route to the Philippines to bring home a grandchild they hadn't known existed. The papers in her purse send Moon into a world totally strange to him. They lure him down the back streets of Manila, to a rural cockfight, into the odd Filipino prison on Palawan Island and finally across the South China Sea to where Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge is turning Cambodia into killing fields and Communist rockets are beginning to fall on the outskirts of Saigon.

Finding Moon is many things: a latter-day adventure epic, a deftly orchestrated romance, an arresting portrait of an exotic realm engulfed in turmoil, and a neatly turned tale of suspense. Most of all, it is a singular story of how a plain, uncertain man finds his best self.

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"Loaded with e-book extras (not available in the print edition), including Tony Hillerman's running commentary on his work, his series heroes Leaphorn and Chee, and a special profile of the Navajo nation. Moon Mathias discovers his dead brother's baby daughter is waiting for him in Southeast Asia -- a child he didn't know existed. Finding her in the aftermath of the Vietnam War brings out a side of Moon he had forgotten he possessed. Tony Hillerman's bestselling Navajo mysteries have thrilled millions of readers with their taut, intricate plotting, sensitive, subtle characterizations and lyrical evocations of landscapes and cultures. Now he departs his trademark terrain and applies his talents to a story he has wanted to tell for decades about an ordinary man thrust into total chaos. Until the telephone call came for him on April 12, 1975, the world of Moon Mathias had settled into a predictable routine. He knew who he was. He was the disappointing son of Victoria Mathias, the brother of the brilliant, recently dead Ricky Mathias and a man who could be counted on to solve small problems. But the telephone caller was an airport security officer, and the news he delivered handed Moon a problem as large as Southeast Asia. His mother, who should be in her Florida apartment, is fighting for her life in a Los Angeles hospital -- stricken while en route to the Philippines to bring home a grandchild they hadn't known existed. The papers in her purse send Moon into a world totally strange to him. They lure him down the back streets of Manila, to a rural cockfight, into the odd Filipino prison on Palawan Island and finally across the South China Sea to where Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge is turning Cambodia into killing fields and Communist rockets are beginning to fall on the outskirts of Saigon. "

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Finding Moon by Tony Hillerman.......2007-04-11

I am an avid fan of Hillerman's Jim Chee and Joe Leaphorn novels. This time I decided to read something that was not Hillerman's usuual genre: now I'm totally hooked on anything Hillerman writes! His craft in storytelling is phenominal! I will certainly purchase more of his novels.

surprised.......2006-07-27

I have read all Tony Hillerman's "Indian" series and was skeptical about a Vietnam setting. Pleasantly surprised by a very good story line! Good writing will triumph every time.

Fabulous.......2005-04-01

I loved this book. Although it is completely different from the beloved Leaphorn/Chee characters, Hillerman's style is there and great as usual. I found it both suspenseful and moving. Loved it!

Not one of his best.......2004-06-12

Though I understand that Hillerman might want a break from his successful "Chee and Leaphorn" books, I too feel that he was a little out of his element on this one..

Interesting Change in Venue.......2003-12-09

I just started reading Tony Hillerman and was really enjoying his Indian characters. When I saw a different venue it was exciting, and I couldn't wait to read it.
Well, it was interesting but not up to what I was used to from this author. The Story was good but not deep enough, you are always waitng for something to happen. No excitment. Moon was a boring character and could have been written with a little more depth.
Please stick with the characters you work with best.

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Finding Moon CD Low Price
Tony Hillerman
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ASIN: 0060815051
Release Date: 2005-04-05

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A phone call in 1975 changes Moon Mathias's life forever, as a voice on the line tells him his dead brother's baby daughter -- a child Moon never knew existed -- is waiting for him in Southeast Asia.

A task he believes beyond his meager talents is pulling Moon to Vietnam. In a chilling world of mystery and silence, disguise and deception, he'll risk everything for the sake of one little girl -- and discover a Moon Mathias who's a better man than he ever thought he could be.

Performed by Jay O. Sanders

Enhanced CD: CD features an interactive program which can be viewed on your computer, including: a photo galary, an author Q&A and a 35 years of excellence timeline.

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Hillerman out of his element.......2005-07-28

The only drawback is that this is an abridged version and it is imperative to her every word on these stories as the descriptions are as much of the Hillerman charm as the mystery. So if you must listen them also read the book afterwards.

Malcolm Thomas Mathias (Moon) finds out that his brother who died in a plane crash left behind a child in the Cambodia- Vietnam region toward the end of the war. The story is about the struggle in the retrieval of the child.
This book has all the Hillerman attributes with the exception of location and culture. There is probably a different reader target that can relate to this book. Once again George Guidall makes a good reader. The problem comes with expectations more than content. The characters are different and the environment is different. The writing style is the same familiar style.

How To Pray Without Being Religious: Finding Your Own Spiritual Path

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How To Pray Without Being Religious: Finding Your Own Spiritual Path
Janell Moon
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Release Date: 2005-03-29

Eat My Martian Dust: Finding God Among Aliens, Droids, And Mega Moons

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Great short story collection

Eat My Martian Dust: Finding God Among Aliens, Droids, And Mega Moons

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An Interesting Collection.......2006-10-02

Although the 14 short stories in this book are all heavily Sci-fi with a good dose of Christianity, there's a surpising amount of variety here. One minute you're reading about a martial arts competition on the moon, and the next thing you know a suspicious stranger in a Martian restaurant is spelled out on the pages in front of you. Heck, there's even a story about a technologically advanced civilization living during the days of Noah. Lots of stuff to enjoy, no matter what you're into. If you like weird alien monsters, lo and behold, this book gives you "Shipwreck Planet" to read. If you're frustrated with the iron grip technology has on society now and in the near future, two stories from John Olson are there keep you good company.

I didn't care too much for the stories within a story format. There was really no need for a transition between stort stories.

To close this overly-simplistic review, it should be noted that I feel guilty because at least two of the tales are positively dripping with an altruistic message, and darnit, I now get the sense that I'm not a very good Christian. Most of the stories put their main focus on turning from unbelief to belief, but I didn't see too much of what should be done after that big leap is made. Although I did see some quiet mention of post-belief issues here and there.

Review of EAT MY MARTIAN DUST.......2006-04-21

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EAT MY MARTIAN
Edited by Michael Carroll and Robert Elmer
Published 2005 by Baker Books

This collection of science fiction short stories with Christian themes is an unconscious continuation of a long-standing, if infrequent, tradition. THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL edited by Lester Del Rey, appeared in 1972 with three novellas by SF greats Poul Anderson, Gordon R. Dickson and Robert Silverberg, In 1973, well-known anthologist Roger Elwood edited FLAME TREE PLANET with stories by Dean R. Koontz, Leigh Brackett, Barry N. Malzberg and Thomas N. Scortia. In 1982, editor Alan Ryan collected such writers as Tanith Lee, Alan Dean Foster, Joel Rosenberg, Michael P. Kube-McDowell, Suzette Haden Elgin, Brian Aldiss and Gregory Benford under the title PERPETUAL LIGHT.

Now Michael Carroll and Robert Elmer, with the clear intent of reaching young adults and teens, have commissioned and collected the likes Kathy Tyers, Sigmund Brouwer and Jim Denney to create a series of SF short stories that invite young readers to find "God among Aliens, Droids and Mega Moons."

Unfortunately the lead-off story, "Things Unseen" by big-name Sigmund Brouwer is a story fragment that should be read last instead of first. If you give this book to a non-Christian SF ready, tell them to ignore this one. It's not representative of the rest of the book. "Time Coffin", by John B. Olson was also a disappointment and might find a better home with tract producers, Chick Publications.

The rest of the stories range from adequate to very, very good, though some may seem clich?d to seasoned SF readers. Veteran Kathy Tyers' story, "Their New Masters" was a little hard for me to follow at first, but ended well, if predictably. Shane Johnson's "Buried Secrets" was very well-written, but the ending is na?ve and detracts from the rest of the story's somber mood. Jim Denney's "Shipwreck Planet" suffers from the Star Trek Syndrome - in which the captain of the starship puts his own life and expensive training on the line by going on a First Contact mission rather than sending an expendable second-in-command. Also, while I understand that the target audience here is teens, adding a teen to a First Contact mission stretches my suspension of disbelief.

Randy Ingermanson's "Chess 4 Life" is nicely creepy, well-executed, and even though it's an old idea; it's a very good story. Jim Denney's "Tin Man" is Golden Age SF at its very best and would have found a comfortable home in any 1950's issue of ASTOUNDING, GALAXY or F&SF. Collection editor Robert Elmer's "For Such A Time" might best be imagined as Tom Godwin's "The Cold Equations" meets Christianity and while I think the dues ex machine ending was somewhat disappointing, it worked well and drew me along. Marianne Dyson's "Zeus' Eagle" would have found a snug home in any issue of Boy's Life Magazine prior to the 1980's.

But it's her last story that was my favorite and the best of the collection in my opinion. "The Right Path" posits a Korean martial art called Kuk Sool as a method for maintaining muscle strength and tone on a Lunar colony. High school student Susan Thomson lives with her father on the Moon part of the year and with her mother back on Earth the other part. While the "d" word is never mentioned, it's implied and neatly places Sarah in the camp of half of all American youth (including Christians). Though her father has no interest in her martial arts passion, she is hard at work earning her black belt when she meets recent Earth immigrant Ian. Ian has no feel for the Moon's one-sixth Earth strength gravity - and makes embarrassing, "I'm-from-Earth-so-I'm-better-than-you" mistakes. He promptly blames his mistakes on everyone else and the "stupid Lunar gravity". Sarah relies on her skills in Kuk Sool as well as her faith in God to prevent a terrible accident caused by Ian and in the end, they become friends. This piece would have easily found a home in ANALOG SF Magazine if the Christian message was removed. It's good for this collection that it found its home here!

With sidebars to offer facts supporting the fiction and a running story line that tries to tie everything together, the collection should find its way into the hands of any young person interested in hard science fiction. It can be used as a witnessing tool as well and while I didn't care for the chatty, too-tricky running story line (I thought the space might have been better occupied with another short story or two), this book would make a fine gift and is an important piece to have in any church or home school library (and if you can afford to donate one) to any public library.

Great short story collection.......2005-03-09

"Eat My Martian Dust" is a wonderful collection of short stories. These 14 tales vary dramatically in locale and environment, but do have an interesting connection. The short stories are by different authors and this adds to the overall enjoyment of the collection. Excellent writers with different styles gives this book flavor! Some of the authors were new to me, but I will now search out their longer works. Indeed, this is short science fiction at its best. Readers should relate well to at least a few of the authors and tales, if not to all of them. Many of the characters described are engaging.

I found the "The Science Behind the Story" segment in some of the short very interesting. Also there is the added bonus of spiritual content that often is so lacking in ordinary sci fi. After all, Christianity has been around for two thousand years, it is only reasonable to assume that as humans spread out from our home world, we will bring Christianity along with us. I must admit to reading the "About the contributors" and being surprised by all the Ph.D.s and high tech science (NASA etc...) backgrounds of the authors. A last thought, it really is too bad Ray Bradbury's short story "The Man" was not included. While that tale long ago inspired Michael Carroll, it really would have fit in nicely with these other great stories.

Finding Out About Sun, Moon, and Planets (Explainers Series)

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Finding Out About Sun, Moon, and Planets (Explainers Series)
Lynn Myring
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21st Century NASA Moon to Mars Program: The Vision for Space Exploration--Planning for Human Planetary Missions, NASA JSC and JPL Technical Planning Documents, ... Commission Report and Findings (CD-ROM)

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21st Century NASA Moon to Mars Program: The Vision for Space Exploration--Planning for Human Planetary Missions, NASA JSC and JPL Technical Planning Documents, ... Commission Report and Findings (CD-ROM)
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ASIN: 1592489818

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This electronic book on CD-ROM provides a comprehensive look at the Vision for Space Exploration, announced by President George W. Bush in January 2004. It provides NASA technical documents related to human planetary missions, Bush White House material on the plans, Congressional hearing testimony, and the full Aldridge commission report with background material on the public hearings held by the commission.

NASA material on the planning for human missions to the Moon and Mars includes:

* Office of Exploration Systems (OExS) - Program Overview, Project Constellation, Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV), Charts and Viewgraphs, Concept Exploration and Refinement
* Johnson Space Center Human Exploration Science Office (ARES)
* Johnson Space Center Space Human Factors Engineering and Advanced Human Support Technology (AHST)
* Johnson Space Center Habitability and Environmental Factors Office (HEFO)
* Johnson Space Center Advanced Life Support - Thermal Control, Solid Waste, Food, Crops, Experiments, Water Recovery, Air Revitalization
* Johnson Space Center Man-Systems Integration Standards (NASA-STD-3000)
* Johnson Space Center Critical Path Roadmap for Bioastronautics
* Johnson Space Center Advanced Technology Integration
* Jet Propulsion Laboratory Advanced Environmental Monitoring and Control
* Jupiter Icy Moons Orbiter (JIMO) and Project Prometheus - JIMO - This ambitious mission to orbit three planet-sized moons of Jupiter -- Callisto, Ganymede and Europa could launch in 2012. It would raise NASA's capability for space exploration to a revolutionary new level by pioneering the use of electric propulsion powered by a nuclear fission reactor. This technology would open the rest of the outer Solar System to detailed exploration in later missions.

We also have four video files with over one hour of material:

* the Bush space vision announcement and NASA introduction;
* the "rollout" video presentation of the Aldridge commission report narrated by Neil Armstrong followed by the commission press conference; and
* two views of the JIMO nuclear powered mission to Jupiter

From the Executive Summary of the Aldridge report: "On January 14, 2004, President George W. Bush announced a new vision for America's civil space program that calls for human and robotic missions to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. This vision set forth goals of: returning the Space Shuttle safely to flight; completing the International Space Station (ISS); phasing out the Space Shuttle when the ISS is complete (about 2010); sending a robotic orbiter and lander to the Moon; sending a human expedition to the Moon as early as 2015, but no later than 2020; conducting robotic missions to Mars in preparation for a future human expedition; and conducting robotic exploration across the solar system. Such a focus for the American space program has not existed since the Apollo era and establishes a much-needed direction and purpose for our national space efforts. While discovery is the goal of space exploration, the Commission is certain that the benefits here on Earth will make the journey at least as important as the destination. The long-term, ambitious space agenda advanced by the President for robotic and human exploration will significantly help the United States protect its technological leadership, economic vitality, and security."

This CD-ROM has over 13,000 pages reproduced using Adobe Acrobat PDF software and Reader software is included. There is no other reference that is as fast, convenient, comprehensive, and portable!

Our CD-ROMs are privately-compiled collections of official public domain U.S. government files and documents - they are not produced by the federal government. They are designed to provide a convenient user-friendly reference work, utilizing the benefits of the Acrobat format to uniformly present thousands of pages that can be rapidly reviewed, searched, or printed without untold hours of tedious searching and downloading. Vast archives of important public domain government information that might otherwise remain inaccessible are available for instant review no matter where you are. This book-on-a-disc makes a superb reference work for scientists, researchers, libraries, schools, students, and home reference!

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4 Titles by Hillerman - A Thief in Time - Fly on the Wall - Finding Moon - Sacred Clowns
Tony Hillerman
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7 Titles By Carla Neggers - Cut and Run - Breakwater - Kiss the Moon - Finding You - The Cabin - Cold Ridge - Dark Sky

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7 Titles By Carla Neggers - Cut and Run - Breakwater - Kiss the Moon - Finding You - The Cabin - Cold Ridge - Dark Sky
Carla Neggers
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Direction finding by sun, moon and stars;: Simple methods not involving mathematical calculations,

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Direction finding by sun, moon and stars;: Simple methods not involving mathematical calculations,
Walter George Woolnough
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