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“Lord, Whatever It Takes, Make Me Like You!”
You long to serve God with grace and strength, to reflect Christ in every word and action. Yet you find yourself continually struggling to bring that vision to life in your daily walk.
At our very core, every one of us is a “twisted sister” within whom the flesh and spirit battle constantly for control. We are afflicted with spiritual schizophrenia, the disconnect between our “good girl” desire to put Jesus first and our “bad girl” realities that crowd our thoughts and push him out of the way.
In this life-changing book, Joanna Weaver, author of the perennial bestseller, Having a Mary Heart in a Martha World, directs your gaze past your own shortcomings to the God who stands ready, willing, and able to make a new woman out of you. She equips you with biblical insights and practical tools to partner with Christ, inviting him into the hidden places of your soul and giving him full permission to redeem and renovate.
Drawing on the stories of biblical Marys and others whose experience with God transformed their lives, Joanna shows how you can find the hope, healing, wholeness, and joy your heart longs for. Having a Mary Spirit will launch you toward lasting personal transformation–soul-deep change that results in a complete makeover, from the inside out.
**Includes a 12-week Bible study for both individual reflection and group discussion**
Customer Reviews:
Having a Mary Spirit.......2007-10-08
This book is an amazing tool for helping you look at yourself through a spiritual magnifying glass.Whether you are a brand new Christian or a lifelong believer, this book reveals ways to take you deeper in your faith and draw you nearer to Christ!
This is a MUST read if you are struggling to find your place in this world........2007-09-14
This book is wonderful. I love the way it is written, just as if Joanna Weaver was sitting next to you on the sofa. She lets you know that it is alright to be struggling with the same issues over and over. She tells you why and then gives you the tools to change and allowing God to change you from the inside out. Absolutely a remarkable book. I believe that it has changed my life. Do yourself a favor - read this book.
Having a Mary Spirit is a definite work out........2007-08-13
This study has been a real spiritual work out for me. Each week as I read the chapter and the verses God's spirit has opened my heart to areas of my life where He still needs to do some work. Then He sends along a little practice for me to go along with my preaching at the study.
A great book for learning more about the true role of the third person in the Trinity in our daily lives, so we don't do what we don't want to do.
This book is surprisingly robust with life-changing information........2007-08-13
I read Joanna Weaver's book Having a Mary Heart in a Martha World and I expected this to be similar. However, I was pleasantly surprised to discover much more. The author gives a thorough explanation of how we are to live the Christian life.
Starting with the chapter "Change me, Lord", she emphasizes the necessity of allowing God to work in one's life rather than just trying harder to live up to the Christian ideal. The first half of the book deals with "how the process of change happens and why God is so intent that it does. The second half focuses on the more practical application of training our minds, guarding our hearts, and purifying our ways." -p.7.
Joanna Weaver does an excellent job of weaving her own experiences into the book so that one can identify with her struggles. I especially appreciated the chapter on "Rooting Out Bitterness." Perhaps, that is because I needed it or maybe we all need help with this.
I would recommend this book for a women's Bible study covering a chapter or two each week. That way, there is adequate time to discuss the material and seek to apply it with others who may be going through similar struggles. It is definitely a book full of information to apply, not just one to read. However, I never felt the author put me under the pile of things to do, but rather presented clearly what Christ wants to do in one's life and how to cooperate in that process.
Recommended to women's Bible studies and Christian book clubs everywhere........2007-06-06
Without true transformation, the best many of us can do on our own is alter our behavior in efforts that in the end look more like self-improvement and sin management than actual heart change. That's why we need God to transform from the inside out. In Having a Mary Spirit, bestselling author Joanna Weaver draws on the stories of various biblical Marys as well as others who have experienced true transformation through God's power and grace.
It's been more than six years since Weaver finished writing the wildly popular Having A Mary Heart in a Martha World, but she still hasn't lost her ability to connect with women and delve deeply into the issues that many of us face on a daily basis. She points out that a number of women struggle between their good-girl spirit and their bad-girl fleshly desires. In any given situation, one side may win over the other. But the key is transformation through our relationship with God.
Weaver explains that how we think can often affect how we behave and underlines the importance of placing all of our thoughts before God. She writes:
"God has recently been convicting me of such careless thinking. Of allowing thoughts to come and go much like cars crossing the Oklahoma-Arkansas border. No roadblocks. No checkpoints. No sin-sniffing dogs. No discipline of the will. Careless thinking is a dangerous habit. For as our thoughts go, so go our emotions. And as our emotions go, so often goes our faith. If the Enemy can get me confused, he can get me discouraged. If he can get me discouraged, he can cause me to doubt."
The transformation is responsible for taking every thought captive, according to 2 Corinthians 10:5, and bringing them into obedience to Christ. She points to the power of Scripture in the transformation process.
The book circles around what Christians can do to become more like Jesus. Many of the tips are practical but welcome reminders. Listen more and speak less. Refuse to gossip. Avoid arguments. Get rid of iffy language. Choose humility. Turn to scripture. Pray constantly.
Throughout the book, Weaver quotes dozens and dozens of writers, pastors and thinkers, many of whom are popular in evangelical circles, including Max Lucado, Charles Stanley, Chip Ingram and Elisabeth Elliott. Readers will enjoy the insights from a long list of well-known authors, though at times they will want to know more of what Weaver thinks and feels from her own words and expression.
One of the great strengths of Having A Mary SPIRIT is that it points us toward the One who can truly transform us. It explains that nothing is beyond God's redemption and provides biblical insights and tools to accompany readers on the journey.
In addition, readers will find a helpful bonus feature: a 12-week Bible study designed for individual or group use that allows for digging deeper into the scripture. Recommended to women's Bible studies and Christian book clubs everywhere.
--- Reviewed by Margaret Feinberg
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A Generous Orthodoxy: Why I am a missional, evangelical, post/protestant, liberal/conservative, mystical/poetic, biblical, charismatic/contemplative, fundamentalist/calvinist, ... anabaptist/anglican, metho (Emergentys)
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By celebrating strengths of many traditions in the church (and beyond), this book will seek to communicate a “generous orthodoxy.”
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An excellent vision of a Christian orthodoxy.......2007-09-29
I absolutely loved Brian McLaren's "A New Kind of Christian", a book that opened up a whole new world for me of possibilities of staying within the Christian faith, something on which I had almost given up. Rob Bell's "Velvet Elvis", in a different way, did the same. So I approached this next book by McLaren feeling exceptionally positive towards him and his writing.
I wasn't disappointed. However this book is very different than "A New Kind of Christian". Once you get past the amusingly-titled but a little wordy Chapter 0 McLaren goes on a tour through different denominations and styles within Christianity, highlighting the good points about them (as well as looking at the bad), showing what we can all learn from this part of the church, and taking those good parts in order to build them into a new 'generous' orthodoxy. It's a great idea and it's also good to read a book which is very positive about so many denominations.
Of course there are the negatives, and Brian says that he is from a particular part of the church and so perhaps he gives them a harder time (the conservative evangelical/fundamentalist wing). As this coincides very much with how I feel about that branch of Christianity that's no problem for me but I suppose readers from that tradition might find it uncomfortable reading at times. We're left in no doubt that McLaren is not a big fan of televangelists but he is a strong supporter of the green movement, that he is learning more to value the Roman catholic and Anglican ideas about liturgy and the mystical side of the church.
What works very well is that each of the different elements in the book (missional, evangelical, post/protestant, liberal/conservative, mystical/poetical, biblical etc) get their own chapter where he delves into that tradition/idea and often gives the history of the movement which was fascinating for me with many of these. He seems able to see the bigger picture with many of these denominations and, as usual in his style, he is positive about many things within them. It was good to read an upbeat book although there were also parts where, with Brian, I almost despaired. The chapter arrangement meant that I read this book over a couple of weeks, dipping into a chapter here and there, and it gave me time to mull over what he was saying and to think about the overall point.
I salute Brian McLaren for this excellent look at a generous orthodoxy (or at least working towards creating one), a church for our 21st century which learns from the mistakes of the past but also doesn't throw out the baby with the bathwater but picks up those good aspects of the traditions and incorporates them into our postmodern world. This was an excellent read, a book I am sure I will return to many times, and of course the author's humble writing style is, as always, appealing.
a few good bits.......2007-08-25
Its hard to pin this guy down. he doesn't seem to want to take a stand on much that is not PC. That does make him controversial.
His point about the Bible being narrative theology was well done, though I've thought about the Hebrew taking of the promise land in quite the terms he described. He seems to be open to evolution as an idea, which may bother some, but he doesn't really dwell on this. At one points he mentions that the substitutionary atonement was not in the original creeds and seems to infer that perhaps shouldn't be among our fundamentals (though he doesn't say this directly). Many others, including myself, see this as one of the very foundations of Christian belief and how one can practice the presence of God (which he calls us to) without experiencing this truth atonement puzzles me. I also am not sure what he has against the Patriarchs in the Bible bt he apologises for the fact that patriarchy is there.
His presentation of the Anabaptists was great. So was his presentation of Pentecostals and contemplatives, two groups that aren't often associated. He does sight the reformed faith as being a creed which led to slavery in the new world or at least justified it. As far as I know, it was the Northern part of America which tended to be of the reformed faith and the south (especially the rich slave owning ones) tended to adhere mostly to the Anglican Church. (I am neither)
I would disagree with one of his presuppositions, namely, that we need to change our message because we live in a dynamic context. I disagree. There is nothing new under the sun. The problems of sin, immorality, evil, depression that faced my parent's (and McLaren's) generation are the same today. Our reaction to them maybe different and our culture may be different, but our problems are the same and we need the eternal gospel preached to us, though perhaps in a different form, we need the same message.
The Best of All Worlds.......2007-08-22
Instead of criticizing and bashing those believers and sects of the Christain Faith who see and beleive things differently than he does, Brian McLaren takes a new and novel approach.
Instead of concentrating on and ferreting out things, views and perspectives that divide, sometimes little and insignifican things, he chooses instead to concentrate on things, views, perspectives, beliefs and actions that unite.
He seeks out and finds common ground of Christians of different persuasions...an impressive piece of work, as most of his books are.
Fresh, novel approach...a good addition to Christian thought and literature. An especially good book for those who are beginning to doubt and question the faith as a whole because of the actions of a fanatic few.
A repentant look at Christianity.......2007-06-06
So I had purposely put this book off in my "emerging/emergent" reading list until now because I was afraid of it. I was afraid of it because I heard all sorts of stuff about McLaren's views of scripture, atonement, doctrine, ec --- and I had heard that those views wouldn't jive with a good ole Lutheran boy such as myself.
They were partially right. There are some things in this book that I patently don't agree with because they're not really Scriptural. The whole idea of the Anonymous Christian is one of those ideas that I don't agree with that keep on popping up (an 'Anonymous Christian' is a Christian who doesn't know he/she is a Christian but is a 'Christian' by proxy through being led to do good works --- Click here for an explanation of the Anonymous Christian by Karl Rahner, one of the idea's main proponents) Part of that problem is alleviated for McLaren because he has a different view of Scripture than what I do, one that would be very comfortable in some of the more liberal branches of mainline protestantism.
Liberal theology is no new thing, however. Even the title of this brand of theology that tends to deemphasize Scripture and overemphasize acceptance shows its age. Putting "Liberal" and "Conservative" on opposite ends of a spectrum anymore is like putting "Communist" and "American" on opposite ends --- it still may be true, but it's missing the crux of the argument.
A Generous Orthodoxy seeks to momentarily deprive the reader of their security in their "spectrum opposite" thinking. It shows up on the cover --- an amalgamation of words that seek to explain who Brian McLaren is while being careful not to put him on a spectrum between "Liberal Protestant" and "Fundie" or "Heretic" and "Doctor of the Church."
Some have called this work by McLaren, "a manifesto of the emergent church." That's not what it is. It's a call to repentance that we should maybe pay some attention to no matter if we agree with McLaren on the atonement or not.
Manifestos and heresies often contain one thing that this book is very short on: answers. Don't read this book if you want "5 steps to a better church." First of all - answers don't sell nearly as well as questions do, which McLaren clearly identified when he put out his other book "The Secret Message of Jesus" alongside the DaVinci Code blow up. Instead, read this book if you're one of two kinds of people:
1. You're pretty sure that most everything your church body does and says is without error...even if you wouldn't agree to that sentence in public.
2. You would like to know what kinds of questions are fueling a national drop in church attendance across the United States.
Also - don't read this book if you're trying to figure out what Lutherans believe, because in the 3 or 4 times he mentions us - he gets us way wrong (i.e. McLaren says Lutherans go back and forth in between believing Baptism is a saving work of God instead of a human rite. Wrongo. Lutherans believe Baptism is God's Saving work, period.)
McLaren never went to a seminary. He's kind of a hack when it comes to some of this theological stuff.....ok, maybe amateur is a better way to put it than "hack." What McLaren is good at pointing out, however, is the dissatisfaction with "boomer-churchism" that has given us Emergent Village, Shane Claiborne, and Open Source Theology.
Oh...and no, I wouldn't give this book to an 11 year old to read because it has some glaring problems theologically - but it is hardly the "we're-gonna-burn-this-one-at-the-stake" kind of heretical work that everyone told me it was. Take heart, you're not going to go to hell if you read it as some might tell you, just don't swallow everything you read.
This book doesn't offer answers, but a call to repent. Honestly, that mirrors our own faith lives. We are called to repent because we know something is right. We know that we're not good enough inside to know what the right answer is. For answers we look to God. For questions, sometimes it helps to look at people we disagree with.
McLaren the theologian?.......2007-05-04
This reads like a theological autobiography with McLaren exploring the positive contributions of various theological perspectives. This is the main point of the book and as such it kind of leaves me wondering: What was the point? People who are generous probably already appreciate various perpectives, and those who are not generous will find in this book ample opportunity to attack McLaren on theological grounds - they have plenty of room to do so, because McLaren merely skates over many complex theological and historical issues.
That is why I was bored for the first 215 pages. I have mixed feelings about McLaren's appreciation for various viewpoints of Orthodoxy (and other religions, crf. chpt. 17). On the one hand Christians need to be generous and charitable. On the other hand, I fear that by appreciating all perspectives I wonder if we risk losing the real distinctives of any perspective. This feeds into our current culture's fascination for buffet style religion and doctrine: Take a little of this and a little of that and mix and match to suit your tastes. Fact: McLaren, himself, does not endorse this approach. But this goes back to my above question about what this book accomplishes.
But there is real genius in McLaren's writing and thinking, and this book is no exception. This first reveals itself at page 215:
"Each of these new challenges and opportunities requires Christian leaders to create new forms, new methods, new structures - and it requires them to find new content, new ideas, new truths, new meaning to bring to bear on the new challenges. These new messages are not incompatible with the gospel of the kingdom Jesus taught. No, they are inherent in it, but previously undiscovered, unexpressed, perhaps unimagined."
To conservative theological watchdogs this seems very threatening. However, the faith must be expressed anew in each generation. We can never be satisfied to pass down a doctrinal statement that is devoid of meaning and significance. This is all the more true in this generation where culture is moving at the speed of light. Frankly, I think most conservative theologians simply don't get it. They either are deficient in their understanding of postmodern culture or postmodern theory or both. But McLaren thinks outside of the box and understands the need to radically rethink how we express the Christian faith in the 21st Century. Unfortunately, as he himself would confess, he is no theologian. So, the more he wades into theological waters the more he is out of his element.
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Prayerful book.......2007-09-09
This book is a great one for just private reading and study about prayer. Or it also makes a good discussion/study book for a small group or to share with a friend. Well written, thought-provoking.
A Vibrant Look at Developing an Inner Life.......2007-07-30
Fr. Richard Rohr is a favorite spiritual writer of mine. I have read many of his books ---- and none have disappointed.
He is director of the Center for Action and Contemplation in Albuquerque, NM.
This book addresses the cultivation of contemplation.
"In the silence of contemplation, we will observe the process whereby we actively choose and create what we pay attention to."
"I believe that faith might be precisely that ability to trust the river, to trust the flow and the lover. It is a process that we don't have to change, coerce, or improve. We need to allow. That takes immense confidence in God, especially when we're hurting."
On 154 pages long but filled with wisdom.
Richard Rohr, Everything Belongs.......2007-07-10
Richard Rohr, Everything Belongs: the Gift of Contemplative Prayer (Crossroad 2003).
Each decade it seems I read a book I wish I'd written. This is one: a brilliant collection of spiritual wisdom. Richard Rohr is probably America's (the world's?) most sought-after teacher of Spirituality and Spiritual Direction. He has both an amazing verbal fluency and breadth of wisdom. He's the founder/director of the Center for Action and Contemplation in Albacerqui New Mexico. (Look it up in Google and purchase some of his tapes/CDs - easy listening! Well, the teaching style is easy on the ears but the prophetic emphasis might be hard!).
Richard is a Franciscan, a `post Vatican 2' Catholic who is critical of both liberal and conservative theological assumptions. He believes (unlike many Protestants) that God was not dead before the 15th century, and also (unlike many Evangelicals/ Fundamentalists) that spiritual wisdom may also be found in some non-Christian sources (though he is critical of many of the presuppositions of Zen, New Age spirituality etc. as well).
Prayer in the teaching of Jesus (and of Richard) is more about being than technique. It's about your life, rather than how you put words together (as in adoration, confession, supplication etc. - there's less than one page here on the components of verbal praying).
And how you live authentically depends on your embracing emptiness, vulnerability, nonsuccess, descent-rather-than-ascent, letting-go rather than acquiring (`affluenza').
It's best to read this book slowly: the text is broken up into small 2-3 page chunks.
Richard Rohr is, in my view, `on target' as a modern prophet: you'll find many more of his articles (including a summary of this book) on this website: http://jmm.aaa.net.au . I've been privileged to have attended many of his conferences, and a retreat for men in Arizona a couple of years ago.
Herfe are some quotes from Everything Belongs to whet your appetite:
`Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.../ The best lack all conviction, while the worst / Are full of passionate intensity' (W B Yeats).
The two great paths of transformation are suffering (which gets our attention) and love and prayer (to get to our heart and passion).
In God's reign `everything belongs' - even that which is broken and poor (`the poor and uneducated may love God more than the theologian or ecclesiastic' - St. Bonaventura).
With Julian of Norwich, we move beyond either-or thinking; we live with paradox, unanswered questions, inner contradictions: `First there is the Fall, and then the recovery from the Fall... Both are the mercy of God.' `The crucifixion was the worst event in human history and God made the best out of it to take away all of our excuses.'
The `Christ' of the insecure tends to be tribal - `just like them'. Centred people, however, are profoundly conservative, knowing they stand on the shoulders of their ancestors. Their security and identity are founded in God. Living out of their true self they are always free to obey - but also free to disobey Church or State, to obey who-they-are in God (eg. Paul, Thomas a Becket, Joan of Arc, Thomas Merton, Dorothy Day).
The problem of all of Carl Jung's patients in the second half of life might have been solved by contact with `the numinous' (God).
Rowland Croucher
Jumbled prose, bursting with insights.......2007-05-23
Father Rohr spoke at the tiny parish where I worship with my family in the mountains of NC. He is a dynamic and engaging speaker. The challenges that he imparted in that sermon had a remarkable impact on my young and reaching mind.
With that said, this book reads like a long and windy sermon of a much weaker calibre than the one preached in NC. If this book were a dinner entree, it would be fusion cusine with spices that do not complement each other. However, taken on their own in small doses, they make for a delightful accompaniment.
With patience, this book is rewarding. Rohr has keen insight into spiritual matters. Yet, I cannot give it more than three stars due to its poor organization, and rambling delivery. Lastly, one of the biggest problems is Rohr's effort to characterize Westerners as vapid and incompetent regarding spiritual matters, which I found to be simply tiresome and noxious.
Everything Belongs:The Gift of Contemplative Prayer.......2007-05-15
For anyone interested in Comtemplative Prayer this is very important book.
With all the changes in our culture and our country sometimes we find our selves being judgemental for one reason or another. 'Everything belongs' helps us establish space to ponder, meditate on , perhaps begin to open our hearts if not our minds.
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Share the ambivalence.......2007-09-28
The one thing I most appreciate about this book is how clearly MacLaren shares his own ambivalence and his own internal struggle over theological issues. His candor is something not always seen in members of the clergy, much less in people who are publishing about their faith.
If you don't like long, convoluted sentence structure (see Faulkner here), you'll likely have trouble taking much away from this book. I think it's unfortunate that his writing style does manage to make his ideas so much less accessible for some people.
Ungenerous Hypocrisy .......2007-08-30
McLaren takes aim mostly at the Evangelical culture and Lord knows we need to get smacked down, but what he fails to understand is how dogmatic, prideful and just plain wrong his spiritually enlightened comrades are on many counts. Case in point is his fawning over environmentalists while he takes hypocritical fundamentalists to task for using scare tactics. I've worked on an environmental issue for four years and daily witness unbelievable slander and misinformation being spread by the leading green groups who use junk science and emotion to lie. This is precisely what McLaren accuses overzealous evangelicals of doing and of course there's some truth to that charge. But the fact that he self righteously hails his environmentalist friends as noble and heroic exposes the weakness of this book, and McLaren's lack of credibility in general.
Generous? I think so.......2007-08-12
After reading this book as well as the reviews that were written here, this book appears to be a big mirror held up for the reader. Those who take themselves too seriously (you'll read many reviews by these folks), those who have built up a large, rule-based "religion", and watch-dog alarmists will not like what they read/see. Those who can take something simply for what it is (not what they want it to be), are open minded yet Biblically ground, and don't mind reading a book that will challenge some of their doctrinal and cultural biases, will thoroughly enjoy this book.
The reason I only gave it 4 stars was because some of the disclaimers in the book got a little old...although after reading the reviews here I can see why he needed to add them. The style of writing is very light...but occasionally almost too light.
In general, I thought this was a great book to sit down with other Christians and discuss and McLaren has some great thoughts on the church and it's direction.
Generous indeed.......2007-07-22
I bought this book because I am really interested in becoming more conversant in the new "emergent" or "open" theology. I suppose that McLaren does a good job of representing the prevailing emergent views, from what I have read in other places. But although his theology is "generous", one wonders how seriously it should be taken. It strikes me as a throw-back to the Jesus movement in the 60's, when people said, "all I need is Jesus". Well, isn't Jesus all we need in 2007? It's a kind of unanswerable question. Of course all we need is Jesus. Of course Jesus was generous and loving. Of course God's arms extend wider than the church is comfortable in admitting. But should we throw out the last two millennia of theology and buy something that we have "missed" until the last 10 years? I think not. This new theology is shallow, and a hair-breadth from Universalistic.
I find McLaren's book to be thought provoking and perhaps a kind of correction to some of modern evangelicalism. But this book, written by an admitted non-theologian with little theological training, must be taken with a grain of salt, at least. He is terribly prone to overgeneralizations, setting up "straw men", and misrepresentations of views other than his own. And his definition of "post modernity" and the resulting disdain for "modernity" is troubling. And is this book biblical? I should have started the review with that question... No, it is not. McLaren does little more than proof-text.
My enthusiastic advice: Do not read this book without some sort of balance or counterpoint readily at hand. D.A. Carson's book, "Becoming Conversant with the Emerging Church" is a must read if you are going to read McLaren's works!
This book proves only one thing.......2007-06-19
The title of this book and the writing within proves only one thing: that Mr. McLaren is not a 'true' Christian in any sense of the word. One cannot have the Holy Spirit residing within and believe that their is any way to God other than Jesus. Also, unless Mr. McLaren repents and receives the One who died and shed His blood for him, he will discover that their really is a literal hell, something he states that he does not believe in. All true Christians must pray for this man who is being used by our enemy to deceive many.
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re-tiree review.......2007-09-23
as a person steeped in traditional religion,this helps my spirituality by being exposed to a paridigm,which deepens my spiritial journey.a must read.
Radical Amazement.......2007-06-01
"Radical Amazement" is amazing in itself as it shows how scripture and the Gospels with the new Cosmos Story compliment each other and are not at all incompatible. It is so very helpful for prayer.
Fascinating and Pleasureable Read!.......2006-06-01
As a student of the Universe Story and the New Cosmology, I have read many, many books and articles on the subject. This is by far, the most readable and entertaining, as well as thought provoking and imaginative that I have found. It is at the top of my Most Recommended List for anyone interested in this subject. Based on this volume, I look forward to future works by this author.
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Amazing Road to Hope.......2006-03-30
For many years I have been reading about and exploring the evolutionary Universe with others, groping for words, searching for a language able to convey the magnitude and wonder of what we are discovering. As I began reading Radical Amazement I had the sense at once of a freshness of approach that delighted me. Here is someone who has done it! Judy has a wonderful gift for inviting people into this new way of seeing that is at once straightforward and inspiring, full of amazement and not at all threatening.'
Bringing the unimaginable into focus........2006-03-19
As a scientist of more than 30 years and a lifelong spiritual traveler, I have always been aware of the incredible concordance of the ineffable experienced in both my physical reality and the Other. In Radical Amazement, the author smoothly and convincingly illumines the cohesiveness between modern theories of cosmology and theological reflection. Many readers, whether or not previously initiated into the quirkiness and mystery of the physical universe, will thank Judy Cannato for her deft and clear synthesis of this reality with the Reality that permeates and motivates all. Finally, and most importantly, we are led by the author's insights and questions for reflection to come to rest focused on the meaning behind our journey ... transformation. We are invited into the immenseness of our own possibilities, to move from where we are to the outer boundaries of what we can become. Thanks, Judy, for your effort and your fidelity to your calling. We look forward to your continuing contribution to our radical transformation. -Br. Harry N. Finkbone, OSL, OblSB
Book Description
A New View of the Old Rugged Cross
Let Cross Purposes spark a fresh revival of love in your heart for the One who cherished you enough to make the ultimate sacrifice.
Each of the 48 short devotional readings will help you approach the crucifixion of Jesus Christ from a different perspective. Together they’ll take you on a moving journey to the very core of your faith…to explore the truths that matter most in our lives:
·At the cross you’ll find a clearer focus of God’s purpose for your time on earth.
·At the cross you’ll find Him opening your heart and mind to more fully receive His intimate love.
·At the cross you’ll find Him sharing with you His victory over all evil and connecting you to His eternal plan for all humanity.
So let these pages bring you before the cross to explore its depths from the Lord’s perspective–so you’ll never forget all He’s done.
Customer Reviews:
Well-organized primer on understanding the "cross" of Christ.......2007-06-06
In CROSS PURPOSES, D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcombe present a thoughtful, well-organized primer on understanding the "cross" of Christ. Christians at all different points in their journey as believers will find morsels of hope and thought-pondering truths to further stabilize and strengthen their faith travel. The authors offer six basic premises by which they develop into brief, concise devotionals. Readers will discover new depths to the oft-discussed topics of God's purpose, God's love, God's sacrifice, the Supremacy of the Cross, the Glory of the Cross, and the Cost of the Cross.
Each essay opens with a scripture verse that sets the tone for the authors' skillfully laid-out exposition. Whether citing well-known historical figures or events, or pulling directly from biblical stories and principles, each chapter provides a weighty measure of God-focused directives that punctuate the eternal take-away of the formerly cited scripture. Inserted throughout the narrative are interesting, not-commonplace facts and quotes that weigh in on the particular topic by famous authors, historians and church leaders such as Augustine, John Calvin, Cicero, Dante, T.S. Eliot, Justin Martyr, D.L. Moody, Charles Spurgeon, Isaac Watts and John Wesley, among countless others. In the closing, a one-sentence prayer cements the various components as a whole in a satisfactory way.
During the course of these devotional readings, believers will be simultaneously encouraged and challenged to better understand what it is they believe and why. A few of the topics discussed entail lessons on recognizing that life as a Christian is one characterized by spiritual warfare where the existence of Satan as a potent spiritual adversary is real; how to distinguish between "guilt feelings" and true "guilt" and how the Bible defines this elusive, misunderstood term; how the "power" of forgiveness is central to the core of Christian doctrine, where a spirit of thankfulness is to be basic operating material in the heart of all Christ followers; and that every believer surrendered to God must embrace three distinct "crucifixions." Christ gave Himself for man (Galatians 2:20). The world has been crucified to the believer (Galatians 6:14). And every Christian's life will be "crucified with Christ," meaning one must lose his life in order to receive it back.
While each part of this text is fully engaging, the momentum builds as the work comes to a conclusion. Somehow, Kennedy and Newcombe successfully convey a sense of urgency and pressing need to present Christ's sacrifice and supremacy as ultimate. This final segment where they revisit the person of Jesus Christ as redeemer and mediator is especially beautiful and poignant. From beginning to end, Christians will appreciate the careful manner in which the cross of Christ is depicted, honored and expressed. Above all, believers will find great comfort and assurance of God's unfathomable love toward those who seek Him.
--- Reviewed by Michele Howe
an eye opening devotional.......2007-05-09
Co-authored by D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcombe, Cross Purposes is divided into 48 bite-sized portions. This devotional will walk you through every agonizing step of the Via Dolorosa. It will spell out the tremendous price Christ freely paid for his Cross, and it will draw you to your knees in gratitude at Christ's triumph over Satan and death.
It is laid out very well with the devotions being divided into twelve sections and beginning with His Grace Extended and Calvary's Necessity. Kennedy gives a clear plan of salvation, then assures the new believer that he will never lose it.
The authors back up these devotions with a lot of Scripture (KJV, NKJV). They supplement every devotion with quotes from spiritual giants (such as Surgeon and Calvin) and my personal favorite--hymns.
Several times Kennedy gives brief word studies in Greek and Hebrew, which I found fascinating because they revealed Scripture in a new light. For the most part, the authors kept on a simple plain--not too wordy scholarly. However, little known adjectives that a large portion of English speakers would have to grab a dictionary to define tended to popped up. Words such as scintillating and coruscating are perfect examples.
Being doctrinally correct is a huge issue with me, so when reading a devotional book, I'm always on the look out for anything that might be questionable. As a Baptist, I found that Cross Purposes lined up with my church's statement of faith. There was one sentence that I feel I must point out, however: Jesus Christ, the pure, spotless Son of God, became the greatest sinner who ever lived.
Yes, Christ was made sin for us as 2 Corinthians 5:21 states. He took on the sins of the entire world, but he never committed them himself. He was no "sinner." Based on another passage in this book that states ...but the guilt He bore was not His own. It was yours and mine, I believe the authors simply meant to point out that Christ carried more sin than any other. The above sentence certainly could have been worded better and might confuse a new believer. Just a word of caution on that.
That aside, I came away from the book with a fresh look at the Cross and what Christ suffered for me. I now have an intense feeling of gratitude for the story of His sacrifice that had dulled with years of repetition.
While reading this book, several times I found myself thinking "I'd never thought of that before..." It was refreshing and enlightening, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
Cross Purposes was the first of D. James Kennedy's books that I've had the pleasure of reading, but I'm sure it won't be the last. I recommend this book as a gift to an unsaved friend or to a believer whose vision is blurred with complacency. It was excellent.
Short devotions by a talented author.......2007-04-03
Reviewed by Debra Gaynor for Reader Views (2/07)
The Christian Gospel isn't fair. If it was fair, Christ would not have suffered and died on the cross. "Because of my sin, justice demands that I experience the wrath of God. Instead, because of grace, God has taken all my slimy iniquity and placed it on His own Son." We cannot earn grace it is freely offered. "Grace involves a great sacrifice, even the sacrifice of one's own life for another."
Kennedy explains the three R's of incarnation. Jesus came to reconcile us to God. The requirements to live in the presence of God are "no sin and perfect obedience." We are not capable of that; it is only through Jesus Christ that "we may stand faultless in the presence of God." The second R is resurrection. Christ died on the cross only to be resurrected again. "Jesus defeated death." The third R is regeneration. We are born again. "There is a second birth, a spiritual birth that comes when we place our trust in Christ, when we invite Him to come into our heart and change our lives."
"If you know in your head `God loves you,' but you don't feel it in the heart. Then look to the cross. See Jesus Christ dying and suffering for you. Then see Him risen from the dead and ascended to heaven and seated at the right hand of His Father."
This book arrived during the days first days of Lent. What could be more timely? From the moment I began to read the devotions I was hooked. "Cross Purposes" puts in simple terms the love Jesus has for each of us. He loved/loves us so much he was willing to die a horrible death in our place. But it doesn't stop there. He is the risen Christ. He conquered death! D. James Kennedy is an extremely talented author. I highly recommend "Cross Purposes" to everyone.
Book Description
The Cloud of Unknowing" is one of Christianity's enduring mysteries - a meditative state where God is experienced on the deepest interior level. To move beyond thoughts and feelings and into the arms of the divine spirit, we have been given the gift of contemplative prayer. On Contemplative Prayer, Father Thomas Keating introduces you to this method for inviting the grace of God into your life, to discover the treasure of holiness always present in ordinary events. Join Father Keating as he teaches a complete workshop on this system of Christian meditation, as it has been practiced in the cloisters and monasteries of Europe since medieval times. Contemplative Prayer, like a freshening wind, is an uplifting event that can help take you to the starting point of the true spiritual journey.
Customer Reviews:
Different strokes.......2006-01-17
I really enjoyed this CD. I especially liked Father Keating's explanations on contemplative prayer and I also enjoyed the guided prayer sessions. Like other reviewers I found that some of the psychological explanations were at times tedious and off the mark but the basic notions that change is difficult due to developmental experiences and related defense mechanisms made sense and I would have no problem recommending this CD to many of my clients. However, there would be a few caveats. Mostly, I would encourage them to listen to the entire CD but to have patience and wait for the last few sessions. Personally, I have worked at incorporating centered prayer in my life by practicing it a half an hour a day and have found that it does help change your emotional reactivity to the events of daily living in a positive manner. Interestingly, my wife did not like the CD at all. She found it tedious and somewhat impractical. It just goes to show how two people can go through the same experience and come out with different conclusions!
Kind of rambles .......2005-12-09
I liked the discussion of contemplative prayer techniques. However, I could have gone without the child psychology lecture that takes up the first 2 out of 3 CD's.
Excellent!! Opened the door to a hidden room in my life!.......2005-08-31
This is an excellent audio presentation by a very gifted Cistercian monk who is well versed in the Scriptures and the Christian contemplative traditions.
It has helped me discover the presence of God - hidden, waiting, healing - but above all else a relationship with divine uncreated love overflowing. Surely that is better than mere calm and a relaxed state of mind!!
Protestants meditate, too........2002-03-23
I found this audiobook very helpful. I think it offered a good guide for the newly contemplative, as well as those who have been pondering God and the universe for a long time. I have drawn on its wisdom often since 9/11, also.
Bruce, as a recovering Catholic, I can tell you that Christians of denominations OTHER THAN CATHOLIC do meditate- even Episcopal heathens like me. =) Maybe you can find some Protestants and actually ask them about this. We're not hard to track down. (And it's actually the Catholic church that has detailed guidelines regarding posession & exorcisms).
For Anyone Seeking Peace and True Rest.......2000-05-25
Contemplative Prayer is the traditional Christian method of meditation and yet most Christians have never heard of it! It has been actively repressed at times in history and now is "damned by faint praise" by the Catholic Church.
Meditation in general is looked upon with great suspicion by most Protestant religions, who feel that it opens one up for possession. Thus one of the most valuable tools for salvation - the ability to place oneself in the Presence of God - is being unwittingly withheld from the faithful!
Fr. Keating is a kind, wise and gentle teacher. He explains why people get unhappy with their earthly circumstances based on programming received prior to their ability to "defend themselves" mentally. He then offers a very simple and straight-forward form of meditation that brings profound peace and deep rest for the body, mind and spirit.
Anyone seeking peace and true rest in their lives will find this presentation to be a godsend.
Book Description
A close encounter with a lightning bolt, passing out drunk on a highway, and hitchhiking coast-to-coast--these are just some of the experiences Dan Gilliam has survived to write about. From preacher's kid to agnostic alcoholic and back again into the life of the church, follow his intriguing path to spiritual understanding and encounter godly grace along the way.
In God Touches, find out how bicycles can take a person to happiness and sobriety, how a loudmouthed second baseman learned to love silence and solitude, and how savoring communion can mean more than stealing mouthfuls of sacred juice and crackers. Often funny, at times radical, and always interesting, these stories of one man's turn from faith and his return will inspire you to look into the cluttered corners of your life and find there the touches of God.
Customer Reviews:
Benefits and Dividends of Dan's Pain.......2007-09-04
Each time I tried to finish Dan's book in the last few weeks, I found myself giving the partially read copy away to a friend telling them, " you have to read the story of this guys life and how he so eloquently writes it up for us to enjoy".
Now that I am three copies in the hole, I finally got selfish enough to at least finish it. I will probably give this copy away as well; passing the gift called GOD TOUCHES to the next person I met; even if it happens to be a stranger.
Dan's ability to weave spiritual truth out of everyday observations and past recollections is both rewarding and inspiring. We get to benefit from his journey. He makes the pain from his life pay spiritual dividends.
Gilliam is an artist painting vivid word pictures of hope. His palette is his life and we see God at work through the events of his precocious childhood, rebellious youth and submissiveness as adult. Through it all, the Father waits for the prodigals return.
To my mind, Dan's first writing effort puts him at least in the room with Donald Miller, Brennan Manning, and Anne Lamont. It will take his second attempt to see if he finds a spot on the sofa with Buechner, Dillard and L'Engle. Thanks Dan for sharing your life, your gift and your hope.
John Turner Mason, Ohio
Well Worth the Read.......2007-08-02
Dan Gilliam is a gifted writer and story-teller. As I finished each chapter in GOD TOUCHES I found myself sneaking into the next chapter to see what he had to say next. I appreciate Dan's willingness to share his life, good times and bad and his insights on how those experiences have molded and shaped him as a man, an artist and as a God seeker. In many ways we started our life journeys in similar places and though we have taken different paths, we have landed in very similar places. Though I have never met Dan I feel that he is a friend and someone who has much to teach me. God has certainly touched him and shaped him in some wonderfully interesting ways. Thanks for taking the time to write this book, Dan.
Not My Path, But My Journey.......2007-07-20
Although Dan's "cracks and spaces" are very different from mine, reading the account of his journey was a blessing to me. My path has been very different from Dan's, but it is clear that we are on the same journey. Dan illustrates how God takes us from where we are to where He wants us, if we only allow Him to. Every Christian should have a copy of this book to loan to struggling friends.
I look forward to your next book!.......2007-07-20
Okay...this is my 3rd try at posting a review. Amazon must be having trouble today. Hope this review is as convincing as the other two, I wrote earlier but lost.
I love this book on many different levels. Dan is a master storyteller. He has plenty of interesting, true stories to tell of his travels, tribulations, and the way God has touched his life. His stories of growing up in the church were among my favorites. They helped my own creative juices flow as I wrote down my stories [..]. I reccomend reading this book as a lesson about how to be "real" as a Christian. Dan is one of the most real Christians I know. He's accepted his flaws to the best of his ability and let's God take care of the rest. That's made it easier for me to be real with God and myself. I highly reccomend this book to anyone who has been hurt by the church as an institution, but is still in search of the eternal God who offers hope, love, and acceptance to all.
Off The Beaten Path.......2007-07-18
Fasten your seatbelts!!! This ride will take you not, on the interstates and highways, but down the backroads and trails of one mans search for his relationship with God, himself and life in general. A refreshing and totally human journey that is impossible not to relate to.
Book Description
Bridges to Contemplative Living with Thomas Merton gently leads participants on a journey toward spiritual transformation and a more contemplative and peace-filled life. Each eight-session booklet offers an introduction to Merton and contemplative living through prayers, readings from Merton and other spiritual masters, and questions for small group dialogue. Book One: Entering the School of Your Experience helps readers explore what is meant by contemplative living and contemplative dialogue while moving them forward in their journey toward spiritual transformation. While the series uses Merton as a starting point, it seeks most of all to mine the spiritual depths of those who use it.
Customer Reviews:
Great Foundation for Discussion Groups.......2007-02-06
This book - the first in a series - is a wonderful tool that I can see used in many faith-based groups. As a springboard for the exploration of Thomas Merton's work, it also serves as a conversation starter for faith-sharing and similar endeavors. I did not find that this book was very conducive for individual reflection nor would I recommend this for someone looking for a preliminary survey of the work of Thomas Merton alone. There are many other sources for both cases.
This is excellent for parish, campus ministry and small-group based discussion.
Begin, Reinvigorate, or Deepen Your Spiritual Life.......2006-11-14
"Entering the School of Your Experience" is the first of eight booklets in the "Bridges to Contemplative Living with Thomas Merton" series edited by Merton scholars Jonathan Montaldo and Robert G. Toth. Themes are based on key principals from Merton's thought including (1) our everyday life is our spiritual life, (2) spiritual formation is grounded in the experience of relationships and community, and (3) personal transformation is the foundation for societal and cultural transformation.
The series is designed for adult Christians in committed small groups, but is also appropriate for individual use. Each of the eight sessions consists of four to five pages containing excerpts on the given topic from two "voices," Merton's and that of another spiritual leader; a psalm; an introduction to the readings; and questions for reflection and dialogue. In addition, optional concluding prayers and a facilitator's guide are provided.
As shown in the following examples from the Contemplative Dialogue session of "Entering the School" the material is broad enough to address the needs of those wishing to begin, reinvigorate, or deepen their spiritual lives. From the introduction to the texts: "Our natural urge is to be heard, and therefore we are often not fully present to one another when communicating." From Merton's voice: "Silence...can at times be the response of a greater love, and of a love that does not endanger truth..." From the voice of Eckhart Tolle: "Most people don't know how to listen because the major part of their attention is taken up by their thinking." From reflect and dialogue: "What value do we place on silence in our culture and our everyday lives?"
Book Description
"A rich book covering many areas of human experience. . . . For the person looking for an intelligent and clear presentation of the relationship between psychological and spiritual growth, this is the book to read.''--America
Customer Reviews:
Read the Review Then make Up Your Own Mind.......2006-12-12
WILL & SPIRIT is a difficult book to review. Any review is likely to reflect more of my own bias than the quality of the book. Readers will probably either love or hate this book. Therefore the best service I can render is to list a few of the things that might draw or repulse potential readers and let them make up their own minds. I gave the book 5 stars because ideas in this book are sure to stay with readers long after the book is finished. Many may read it more than once.
THINGS THAT MIGHT REPULSE READERS:
Writing style. Many contemplatives are drawn to mystical or poetic works that non contemplatives barely comprehend. Some contemplatives are repulsed by technical or scientific writing styles. In this book May comes across as a psychiatrist who writes about contemplative spirituality. The style is difficult to read, professional, and deep. In some ways he reminds me of M. Scott Peck.
Ecumenicism. May writes from a Christian perspective, but that perspective includes insights gained from all humanity and all religious traditions. One gains the impression that he believes Christianity is A way to God, but not necessarily THE way. There is enough of this tone in his writing to bother some readers. This is a book of Contemplative Psychology, but not necessarily Christian Theology.
Be forewarned. If you purchase the book and have these complaints, it is your own fault.
THINGS THAT MIGHT DRAW READERS:
True Spirituality. May does an excellent job of contrasting willfulness and willingness to submit to God. As with many contemplatives, he declares selfishness to be sinful, whether it is acted out in socially unacceptable ways or more respectable self-righteousness within the religious community. Three cheers for piercing the façade of the self-righteous.
Silence and Meditation. May will comfort many people who believe that contemplation requires sitting cross-legged on a bed of hot coals for several hours each morning. He even goes so far as to suggest that hyperactive people might gain more from brief periods of silence than those who are able to go to extremes. This pierces the bubble of contemplative elitism.
Unitive Experience. I don't know if this will be viewed by readers as a positive or negative, but May's description of unitive experiences will cause readers to think. He labels these as the most common of all spiritual experiences, but declares that most people shut them out because they challenge our desires to have total control of our own spirituality, and in the process total control of our own God.
Attachment. While acknowledging that all humans have desires, May challenges the selfish ways in which our desires quickly become attachments that stand between us and God.
THE BOTTOM LINE
Read through this review and decide. Is this a book for you?
Will and Spirit Encouragement at its best.......2003-01-12
I found May's book encouraging. I particularly was drawn to his disclosure of the sexuality involved when your spirituality is expanding. The physiology of the Spiritual/Sexual response is not often spoken about. I am thankful for those disclosures.
A rare gem, well worth the effort!.......2001-10-31
This is one of those rare books that excites you as you read. May speaks of contemplative prayer and spirituality as both a long time practitioner and a psychiatrist. This is neither a book of inspiring piety not a book of the mechanics of prayer. Rather, it describes the dynamics of the human mind as it comes into contact with the transcendent in contemplative prayer. As I read through the book, I was frequently saying "Yes, that's it exactly!" The section on the defenses the self comes up with in "protecting itself" from unitive experience especially impressed me.
May has spent much of his professional career focusing on the area of spiritual direction. Rather than building his psychological model on experience obtained from treating pathology, May builds his model on "unitive experience" in the context of contemplative prayer. The model is especially helpful in understanding what goes on in us as we attempt to practice the methods of contemplative prayer. It gives a practical look at the obstacles to prayer, why they arise, and how to understand and work through them.
May's pivotal concept is the role of willingness and willfulness as life attitudes and the critical standards for our spiritual lives. He presents willingness as an openness to God's will in all circumstances. This attitude is critical, as it allows God to work through us. The real danger to our relationship with God and with one another is an attitude of willfulness. This attitude places our will as the standard. It is dangerous because there is no room for God in this attitude. It is especially dangerous when the person thinks that he or she is God's gift to humanity.
When I read anything other than novels, I underline important ideas. My copy of Will and Spirit is so filled with yellow from my highlighting marker that at times the pages almost seem to be printed on bright yellow paper.
This is an excellent book on the topic of contemplative prayer and the spiritual life. It is not an easy book. It requires serious reflection as you move through it. It provides practical advice that is available only from one who is experienced both in contemplative prayer and providing direction to those who are trying to follow the contemplative path.
Like a treasure you find in the field.......2001-10-05
The beautiful thing about May's book is that it is so hard to define. It is part psychology, part theology, part poetry, part philosophy. The book is empirical and lyrical. It vibrates with the author's warm heart, his brilliant intelligence, his down to earth common sense. It is a book that describes the spiritual journey many of us yearn to undertake and in so doing clarifies it and makes it easier to proceed. The journey of spiritual transformation that May describes is the journey of surrender to Mystery. May describes this process of transformation as the proces whereby our ego acquires its proper and helpful place in the orbit of our being. No longer the willful king concerned with preserving its self importance at all costs, the ego is transformed into an ally in the service of True Life. But the process of transformation is fraught with obstacles ranging from inner fear to the many illusions that pass themselves as the ultimate good to external evil. May looks at each one of these obstacles, patiently, comprehensively. He does not leave any questions about the internal life unaddressed, even if his response is simply to delineate the unknown. It is a book that I will take notes on and read often. As you read it, you will feel as I did, that behind its ease and clarity there lies a monumental effort on the part of the author. Like the other reviewers here, I am profoundly grateful to the author for this effort as well as for his openness to the inspiration that informs his work.
a cornerstone book.......2001-10-04
I read this book so many years ago I can't remember. It is heavily underlined, and parts of it still stay in my mind nearly word for word. This level of thought is a gift for a long time. Now I'm ordering another copy for a friend. It's worth sitting down and thinking with this man-- get ready to underline.
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